- If there is a God, I hope that he casts you into the flames of hell for inciting such hatred, for judging people, and for claiming to speak for God. I hope you burn.
- Well f*#k the bible and f*#k you. You are hate mongers, plain and simple.
- Dear C*#t-Face… I hope you get hit by a moving truck.
- You are a homophobic f#*k… you call us fruits and saying our lifestyle is wrong. You sir are a dirty c*#t! You don’t LOVE homosexuals. You are in the closet and this shit is a cover up. I’m glad you were raped!
The above comments appeared underneath Peter Madden’s (Christian Democratic Party Candidate) YouTube video ‘Heal our land”, when he called for Christians to attend a prayer meeting in Hyde Park on Mardi Gras parade day. More graphic comments were removed.
This kind of vile vitriol is spewed out every time a religious leader states their uneducated opinion about homosexuality, marriage equality or the LGBT community. But does it further our cause? It probably does nothing more than reinforce the existing stereotype in conservative Christian circles that gays and lesbians are an angry, militant bunch who have no respect for others opinions.
When a debate on marriage equality was planned for Tasmania in July, Jim Wallace from the Australian Christian Lobby and Australian Family Association spokeswoman Terri Kelleher withdrew, citing the amount of “gay hate” they had received as one of the reasons.
Gay rights champion, Rodney Croome, said he was disappointed about the withdrawal as he was “looking forward to an opportunity to reassure Jim Wallace, and Terri Kelleher that marriage equality advocates like myself want a mature and respectful public discussion about this issue.”
Senate candidate for Family First, Wendy Francis, experienced verbal attacks when she made inappropriate comments about the children of same sex couples and was involved in a campaign to remove Adshel’s safe sex posters featuring a male gay couple holding each other.
When British journalist Melanie Phillips suggested that “some gay people were in danger of turning into the new McCarthyites by demonising and attempting to silence all who disagreed with the gay rights agenda” she received similar treatment. Tweets suggested that she should be killed. ‘Someone just kill Melanie Phillips please”; “your homophobic rant equals that which comes out of a dog’s rectum. Kill yourself you ****”. She gave an example of an email of similar vein “people like you should be silenced as you insight (sic) bigotry and fear. Go and suck a tail pipe, get cancer, GET RAN OVER BY A TRAIN. I hope your ******* house burns down”.
Can you believe this! Death threats are not uncommon on both sides of the fence.
Democrat State Senator and Pentecostal pastor Ruben Diaz Sr. opposed gay marriage in New York and received numerous death threats in the mail. But New York Mayor, Michael Bloomberg championed marriage equality as a “fundamental civil right” also got the same treatment. Not from the gay community of course but from bigoted Christian fundamentalists.
So there are some crazy, unhinged, fruitcakes on the fringes of both communities. Of course these people do not represent the mainstream any more than the people who set fire to properties demonstrating against corporate greed represent those of us who would like to see more transparency and accountability in matters of finance. In fact they harm the cause
What I find fascinating is that people who respond like this can’t see that they are no better than the people opposing them. It’s a battlefield. On one side you have people yelling abomination, pervert, sodomite and on the other side people yelling homophobe, bigot, hater. Both are hate-filled. It’s hypocritical and lacks integrity to label someone ‘a hater’ if you are using hate speech yourself. Hellooooooo…..look in the mirror.
We seem too quick to label any opinion that is not gay affirming or accepting as “hate speech”…..or label them “homophobic”.We don’t like the dualistic approaches such as male/female yet often we promote a “you either hate us or accept us” ultimatum. But it isn’t that simple.There is a continuum that societies and individuals move along concerning LGBT issues; consisting of seven different stages. For decades homosexuality was not accepted in Australian society. Did they all hate us? Some did but not all. Others were approving, some nonchalant and others uncomfortable about the topic.
The continuum works like this. On the left hand extreme we have hatred. On the right hand we have advocacy. In between we find another five stages such as dislike, discomfort, tolerance and acceptance. Some people who share a different opinion are not haters….and to label them as such reinforces their current opinion and holds up progress.
One of the major contributing factors to people moving along the continuum and becoming more, tolerant, accepting or pro-gay is that they have come to know gay and lesbian people or that a friend or family member has come out. This challenges their pre-conceived ideas, prejudices and stereotyping creating the possibility of a change in understanding and attitudes.
Of course it is not hard to understand the source of vitriol expressed by some in the gay community. Research shows that 40% of gay men and 25% of lesbians experience physical assault and 80% of men and 72% of women experience verbal abuse. The statistics are frightening.
Why have they been the targets of physical or verbal abuse? Not because of anything they have done but simply being who are. Add to this years of oppression, discrimination and rejection by friends, family and church and you are bound to have some very angry people, and when triggered, will project the hurt back on to those perceived to be the source of the suffering.
There are those within religious circles who desperately need to be educated about sexual orientation and gender identity, but possibly there are some within our community who need a good dose of therapy or training in communication skills.
So next time you feel like retaliating; think before you respond. As I’ve said in my article 15 things I’ve learnt about discussing homosexuality and Christianity “Winning is not the goal, communicating effectively is. To speak intelligently, rationally and graciously requires skill and patience”. To shoot of a quick angry response doesn’t require intelligence; emotion is the driving force.
There is a proverb I have found helpful to live by. “A gentle response defuses anger, but a sharp tongue kindles a temper-fire. When wise people speak, they make knowledge attractive, but stupid people spout nonsense.”
Or as Martin Luther King Jnr. said, “Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.”
Back to the Madden video. I thought this simple comment was the most profound amongst the thousands.
“At first I laughed. I thought it was a joke. Then I cried a little inside”. jadey1928.
Thanks jadey 1928 (whoever you are) …..in 16 words you got to the heart of the matter.Please leave your comments, thoughts and additional insights below.
© Anthony Venn-Brown
its rather amazing though that the bible also suggests stoning women, and an eye for an eye. The bible bashers choose which to take home with them. Even if there was a good, which of course there is not, religion was created by men to control other men. It is now and has always been about exercising power.
That's a very interesting point gaycarboys.com made – an eye for an eye, as per the Bible. I know for one that sometimes it's so tempting to just give it back, but nobody really wins.
The violent acts and laws recorded in the OT were condemned by Jesus. Some religious people still get it wrong. I think he made it pretty clear though when he said.
Matthew 5; 38-42"Here's another old saying that deserves a second look: 'Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.' Is that going to get us anywhere? Here's what I propose: 'Don't hit back at all.' If someone strikes you, stand there and take it. If someone drags you into court and sues for the shirt off your back, giftwrap your best coat and make a present of it. And if someone takes unfair advantage of you, use the occasion to practice the servant life. No more tit-for-tat stuff. Live generously.
43-47"You're familiar with the old written law, 'Love your friend,' and its unwritten companion, 'Hate your enemy.' I'm challenging that. I'm telling you to love your enemies. Let them bring out the best in you, not the worst. When someone gives you a hard time, respond with the energies of prayer, for then you are working out of your true selves, your God-created selves. This is what God does. He gives his best—the sun to warm and the rain to nourish—to everyone, regardless: the good and bad, the nice and nasty. If all you do is love the lovable, do you expect a bonus? Anybody can do that. If you simply say hello to those who greet you, do you expect a medal? Any run-of-the-mill sinner does that.
48"In a word, what I'm saying is, Grow up. You're kingdom subjects. Now live like it. Live out your God-created identity. Live generously and graciously toward others, the way God lives toward you."
Thanks for this sensitive post. I am wary of promoting it because there are many people who are merely criticised for their opinions against homosexuality who talk about that criticism like its the worst oppression ever known. I'm sure you know the sort of behaviour I mean. I fear they would seize on this a little.
However it is important that this is spoken about. The lynch mob mentality which on the internet can know no limits can take many forms – it can include threats of violence against people for offensive and privelaged but hardly evil views. People don't realise that words typed on to a public forum have an impact.